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"All Slash Ships are pretty much Inception"
God damn it people-- granted I am not the biggest slash/yaoi fan anymore, but are we seriously having this discussion still? What year is it? 2018? Yeah, I thought so.
Why does anyone really care what people like/don't like? Oh well, at times Fandom!Secrets can be a real cesspit-- but there are some secrets that are actually pretty brilliant.
"All Slash Ships are pretty much Inception"
God damn it people-- granted I am not the biggest slash/yaoi fan anymore, but are we seriously having this discussion still? What year is it? 2018? Yeah, I thought so.
Why does anyone really care what people like/don't like? Oh well, at times Fandom!Secrets can be a real cesspit-- but there are some secrets that are actually pretty brilliant.
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6/5/18 13:57 (UTC)I suspect it's a reaction to the current spicy fandom discourse. Slash fandom changed a lot since you became less active in fandom. Due to some f/f and m/m in canon now, everyone thinks all characters will be canon, canon, canon and anyone who disagrees hates the gays.
Now the norm is "ship two characters who vaguely had eye contact in one scene and make up headcanons that they're actually gay (which fandom did used to have lol) and harass anyone who ships anything else and call them homophobes for not agreeing that these two characters who vaguely shared eye contact once are what will end all homophobia in the world, then threaten the cast and call them homophobes when these two characters who barely know each other aren't 1000% canon and the only thing canon ever focuses on."
The f/f variant is: "this married female character who literally never talks to another female in canon she isn't related to is a LESBIAN and if you don't agree you hate lesbians, and I will personally dogpile you." They're bizarrely hostile to "how about bisexual?" as an option because, you know, the happily married with 6 kids factor.
There's also aggressive headcanon pushing like "x is autistic coded and if you disagree you hate autistic people, x is trans and if you disagree you just hate trans people" and so on. Unfortunately, trying to avoid other people's headcanons has become an exhausting part of fandom.
It's gotten pretty bad. There's been fandoms where cast people getting their families threatened over ships, getting death threats, otherwise harassed... And it isn't rare, it's something you hear about every day now.
I could give examples for miles, but just read a bit of https://huntypastellance.tumblr.com/ and you should get a view of the worst of the recent wanks in the Voltron fandom, which this is probably referencing.
If anything I suspect the secret maker is a slash fan going "guys, I like them too, but it's never going to be canon, stop harassing the creators."
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8/5/18 08:14 (UTC)I think bonnefois hit it dead on with people wanting characters that they can just hollow out completely. But for some reason, people can't accept that other people are projecting on to those characters in different ways and leave it at that. I don't really know how we reached the "I don't agree with it/like it so it shouldn't exist period" point.
But honestly it feels like there's a lot of performance involved. It's to the point where I'm not always sure if people actually care about what they're arguing about or if they just want to latch on to discourse buzzwords to look Woke(TM).
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