So I've seen it, I've seen Avengers: Endgame~

[alwaysbeenasmiler]

The only thing that I'm going to post BEFORE the cut text is an emphatic and heartfelt 'oh dear'.



So congrats Marvel-- over the past 10 years, you've made us care about characters to such an extent that there was no choice BUT to be PUNCHED IN THE FEELS. Like we had no choice-- we were bearing our tummies like teletubbies, waiting for you to get us with the infinity gauntlet, which it did. I spent the last hour of that move in a non-stop flux of tears and feels, so much that I am surprised I'm not water logged (oh yes, before that point there was also spotty crying here and there, but it didn't really all out tear-storming until the last hour).

HOWEVER!

Once the tears and feels have dissipated, my husband and I were left with TWO major questions.

Captain America with Thor's hammer - That was Owen's major question
The SPACE/TIME CONTINUUM - which was mine.

To be perfectly fair, I don't really care about Thor's hammer. Yeah I know that Thor is the only one who is supposed to wield it so I don't care, but that space/time issue, that's a whole 'nother ballpark-- and coming back to it, I REFUSE to believe that their was no serious consequences other than the sacrifices of both Black Widow and Stark-- especially with everything that WENT wrong when the group went back to grab the infinity stones-- and I cannot see how Stark's "Nothing changing" could of happened, especially with two of everyone running around at a particular point the individual time lines. Yeah, I get that Captain America went to put back the infinity stones RIGHT where it happened and maybe we will see the effects of that in all the movies going forward (AND YES I HOPE WE DO, PLEASE MARVEL BE THE HEROS WE NEED YOU TO BE)-- but they technically did take out past Thanos-- he jumped from the past to the future, and them destroying him destroyed what happened in Infinity Wars unless there is some flux within a flux going on.

Truthfully honest, I'm gonna be wrapping my head around this for DAAAAYS!

Gosh Nia, can't you just leave well enough alone without overthinking?

The movie was brilliant and marvelous and made me feel BUT despite all that, it did raise questions upon questions and you can better believe that I am going to be DISSECTING all the other movies in an epic re-watch, and then I can spot any parallels/flaws because to be truthfully honest, there may be things that I am missing that maybe on a re-watch it will make sense.

Comments

[omnipotent]

I feel like they kind of hinted at Captain America being able to wield Mjolnir in Civil War--when he was able to move the hammer a wee bit in the party scene and Thor was kind of annoyed by it.

And yeah, I agree with you--I do think that there should have been more consequences than the loss of Romanoff and Stark.

But Captain America's ending was so wonderful and it made me so happy.

[alwaysbeenasmiler]

I agree about Captain America's ending but that also raised a few questions about like what exactly Captain America did in order to get that ending. He also must of done something to play with the time line-- and how exactly would that of affected everything going forward for the heroes? I cannot believe for a second that wasn't a cog in the ironworks...

I mean all of those characters-- Natasha, Stark, Thor-- all of them still existed in the past and lived up into that point; but how did that point change? Especially with Captain America-- was he not in the Avengers? Did he end up working for S.H.E.I.L.D-- how did that affect things in the timeline? Were the Avengers even in existance? Clearly they were because they were all gathered at that point when they were sending Stark's memorial flower arrangement out into the lake.

I remember when all of them were talking about the past and how it could change when they first thought about going back to retrieve the infinity stones and it just seems like A LOT happened much like a episode of Benny Hill where there is hijinks music playing and everyone is running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

And the soul stone-- if it was put back before Thanos got to it, right at the point that it was taken and before Thanos was destroyed then how would that affect the timeline too? SO. MANY. QUESTIONS! And each question raises even more questions.

[omnipotent]

I agree that he probably did something with the timeline in order to be with Peggy.....but I guess we're never going to get the answer of what. But apparently, the Avengers in the present still knew him, since Sam still knew Steve when Steve passed on the shield.

My question is with Nebula and Gamora, especially Gamora. Apparently Gamora doesn't remember her romantic feelings for Star-Lord? How does that make sense?

[alwaysbeenasmiler]

Well considering that Gamora was taken from a timeline where she hadn't met Star-Lord yet, I can totally see it; really all she had was Nebula's word on it-- so it makes total sense that she was like 'what the ever loving hell."-- because Thanos jumped from the time line before the Galaxy crew sort of started traveling together-- Star Lord was brought back from the exact time where he was vaporized, so he has memories of her, but there is a distinct time period that she sort of skipped because now she's running around in future land and Star Lord is searching for her-- And I don't even know how THAT affects everything either, because technically Gamora doesn't die for the Soul Stone, Natasha already did that--

So there must of been changes there too.

And Thanos HAD to have made the jump at the point just before Gamora met up with Star-Lord, because if he hadn't, she would of remembered Star Lord.

My brain-- it's everywhere

[breyzyyin]

Oh, I can see so see what you mean about the questions regarding the space/time continuum. I am still wrapping my head around those as well. :)

I so share your sentiments on the movie as well. ♥